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09-02-2009, 10:46
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Originally Posted by Reastygraben | Perhaps she piffed him off with an inappropriate "Super Poke".
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09-02-2009, 13:55
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09-02-2009, 18:54
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FB is so passé. Anyone using Twitter?
"I'm eating my homemade cherry pie and can recommend adding a layer of ground almonds"
"Fishfingers and rösti with peas for dinner - yum"
"You're all gonna die"
Etc.
I'm not on FB and it's been hard containing my curiousity about some of the freaks I've spent my days with. I'm a little bit worried I'd be envious.
I'm also worried I'd try to resurrect communications with people whom I really shouldn't. Discretion is the better part of valour and I'd more likely than not make a tit of myself, but that's probably just me being cautious.
I do feel its for the kids. The sheer immediacy of information exchange must be very appealing, however the consequences of certain photographs or stories being made 'public' make me shy away from the service. Not that I'm ashamed (of much), but it won't do having every gothic image broadcast for all and sundry.
I also feel that other internet Forum in Switzerland which we cherish so dearly started it's decline when a tight FB crowd merged their online interactions. Then it all - inevitably - became poisoned and sure enough the Dramas were played out over there. It certainly killed the decent social scene for a while.
Hmmm.
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09-02-2009, 19:08
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Originally Posted by Dä Götti Max
I do feel its for the kids. The sheer immediacy of information exchange must be very appealing, however the consequences of certain photographs or stories being made 'public' make me shy away from the service. Not that I'm ashamed (of much), but it won't do having every gothic image broadcast for all and sundry.
I also feel that other internet Forum in Switzerland which we cherish so dearly started it's decline when a tight FB crowd merged their online interactions. Then it all - inevitably - became poisoned and sure enough the Dramas were played out over there. It certainly killed the decent social scene for a while.
Hmmm. | It's funny you should bring this up again because I was thinking the same just this morning. I've been thinking more and more about my data, who has it and what they intend to do with it and am considering closing my Facebook account. I don't actually use it for anything, and rarely update it, it serves only for "friends" to send me light advertising and poses difficult decisions where ex bosses add me.
With regards to the other forum that makes me feel incredibly uncomfortable because it has changed ownership since I join, physically moved server and new admins have been given access to my private data such as email address and I didn't agree that they could do this with my IP at any point. I'm in the situation where "somebody on the internet" has records of my personal email, my ISP, my operating system of choice and webbrowser, my real name, my place of work, the type of car I drive, the names of the people who renovated my house etc etc.
In addition to this I do not have anybody I can contact to address my concerns, nobody is accountable and their admin sent me a rather unpleasant PM stating he will not reply to me again. I don't think they are taking me or my concerns seriously and now I feel a bit foolish for being in this situation. I have tired to contact them privately, to avoid another sit com drama on their site and they are ignoring me. I want to resolve things out of the limelight and amicably but AGAIN they are incapable of just being straightforward and honest.
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I wonder if the Head Fromages here can respond to the following:
Is it possible to access all postings made (by me, for example) and filter them so someone could print them out / copy them / delete them somehow?
Obviously a database / Forum doesn't want the whole rug pulled out from under them by having people delete thousands of posts. I guess we have to learn the lesson that whatever we say or do in public we can consider it written in stone ad infinitum.
Hey Peachy, cracking picture of you on that Thai beach with the ladyboy
(That's no ladyboy, that's my wife, etc)
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Originally Posted by Dä Götti Max Is it possible to access all postings made (by me, for example) and filter them so someone could print them out / copy them / delete them somehow?
Obviously a database / Forum doesn't want the whole rug pulled out from under them by having people delete thousands of posts. I guess we have to learn the lesson that whatever we say or do in public we can consider it written in stone ad infinitum. | Using vBulliten
1. I guess you could search for all posts then delete the lot, there is also a plugin that does this.
2. Copy them, yeah to another place in the forum if you were a mod, exporting to somewhere else in a usable format isn't possible
3. Print them, I don't think there is the facility to bulk print posts but I haven't checked available mods.
Obviously if you have direct access to the DB you might get more mileage out of "1" and "2" but again you'd have to know what you are doing.
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09-02-2009, 20:39
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Originally Posted by peachy exporting to somewhere else in a usable format isn't possible | Programs can be written that mimic the browsing behaviour of a nosy user. All they have to do is crawl the forum pages and parse the HTML structure of the threads and posts to extract the desired information and store it in another format. This is in fact how many unofficial migration scripts from/to commercial BBSs are implemented when direct access to the underlying database is not available.
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09-02-2009, 20:42
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Originally Posted by peachy With regards to the other forum that makes me feel incredibly uncomfortable because it has changed ownership since I join, physically moved server and new admins have been given access to my private data such as email address and I didn't agree that they could do this with my IP at any point. I'm in the situation where "somebody on the internet" has records of my personal email, my ISP, my operating system of choice and webbrowser, my real name, my place of work, the type of car I drive, the names of the people who renovated my house etc etc.
In addition to this I do not have anybody I can contact to address my concerns, nobody is accountable and their admin sent me a rather unpleasant PM stating he will not reply to me again. I don't think they are taking me or my concerns seriously and now I feel a bit foolish for being in this situation. I have tired to contact them privately, to avoid another sit com drama on their site and they are ignoring me. I want to resolve things out of the limelight and amicably but AGAIN they are incapable of just being straightforward and honest. | You've noticed the stone faced super dictator attitude of two of the mods in particular over there too!!!
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09-02-2009, 21:14
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Originally Posted by Reastygraben Programs can be written that mimic the browsing behaviour of a nosy user. All they have to do is crawl the forum pages and parse the HTML structure of the threads and posts to extract the desired information and store it in another format. This is in fact how many unofficial migration scripts from/to commercial BBSs are implemented when direct access to the underlying database is not available. | I meant that vBulletin doesn't support this natively. It is always possible somehow, in fact we have got in a company at work that do exact this (CMS screen scraping not forum scraping). Quote:
Originally Posted by Not Salsa Lover You've noticed the stone faced super dictator attitude of two of the mods in particular over there too!!! | Maybe but we've wondered off topic. | 
10-02-2009, 00:55
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Hearing you Guys talk like that makes me all gooey.
Anyway, back to FBunnies; THIS, from L'Oignon
KANSAS CITY, MO—While checking his news feed for updates on the 438 people in his extended network Monday night, Tom Allessandro, 24, noticed that Facebook friend David Bluvband has apparently died. "Huh, I guess he's dead now," said Allessandro, adding that it seemed like only yesterday when Bluvband, a former coworker of his ex-girlfriend, posted a link to the YouTube clip of "Chocolate Rain." "Boy. That's a shame. Just goes to show you that you really have to enjoy every SuperPoke like it's your last." After an appropriate two-minute mourning period spent reviewing Bluvband's tagged photos, Allessandro clicked "Attending" for an event entitled "Lost My Cell Phone! I Need Your Numbers!!@!."
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