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10-08-2009, 23:17
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Originally Posted by lesley I've just re read a couple of the replies, IMHO, nobody chooses to be gay, nor is it a fad and to suggest that people become gay just for a leg over, is not only stupid and ignorant, but laughably ridiculous. I have spoken to my 'best' pet poof about this and he confirmed, that nobody would choose this lifestyle. Just as straight people don't choose to want a bit of hows your father with the opposite sex, homosexuals don't choose the opposite. The level of hatred, fear and ostrascision from the general public (let alone familial disappointment) wouldn't be something someone would choose.
I think that despite your best protestations HAT, you are just being inflammatory. | Along with HAT, I'll be the other one that you're referring to then. So let me elaborate. I know of at least two people who decided to "give it a try". Therefore they made a lifestyle choice that they would not have made even as little as twenty years ago due to the stigma attached to such a choice. One decided it wasn't for them and switched back again after a couple of years and is now back in a straight relationship and is very happy. The other decided to remain that way and also is very happy.
I believe that it is more acceptable to be gay these days and, as a result, more people are choosing to give it a go. Not all I agree but imho a large percentage.
Also, I doubt that you would find anyone who would openly admit to taking such a decision lightly (especially the Swiss who do take themselves very seriously). But it's certainly an easier decision to make these days than in days gone by. Whether this is a good thing or a bad thing is up to you as an individual to decide. Me, I don't really give a crap as long as people are happy in what they do.
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11-08-2009, 20:30
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Originally Posted by Mikey Along with HAT, I'll be the other one that you're referring to then. So let me elaborate. I know of at least two people who decided to "give it a try". Therefore they made a lifestyle choice that they would not have made even as little as twenty years ago due to the stigma attached to such a choice. One decided it wasn't for them and switched back again after a couple of years and is now back in a straight relationship and is very happy. The other decided to remain that way and also is very happy.
I believe that it is more acceptable to be gay these days and, as a result, more people are choosing to give it a go. Not all I agree but imho a large percentage.
Also, I doubt that you would find anyone who would openly admit to taking such a decision lightly (especially the Swiss who do take themselves very seriously). But it's certainly an easier decision to make these days than in days gone by. Whether this is a good thing or a bad thing is up to you as an individual to decide. Me, I don't really give a crap as long as people are happy in what they do. | I strongly believe, the gay issue is "sensitive" to many, who expressed their views here.
I was not baiting for a flame war of words, but I was really asking an honest question about how people perceive gays TODAY. Also I asked how people perceive friends who are openly gay.
Many of the replies here, hints of preconceived notions and preconceived negativity about the gay issue. It is almost laughable to read some "defending" gays when no one was criticising gays or their choice. Some readers here just assume anyone (including your sincerely) discussing gays, are bashing gays.
IMO, these are the exact people who actually have hidden distaste against gays, but they are too hip and politically incorrect to admit it.
For me, I also don't really care if my friend is sexually attracted to the same gender or not. But I will be queasy if a gay makes a pass at me (actually 20 years ago, one did in a dimlit disco).
Hahah....so don't pass your judgement too quickly about my posts or others' posts. We are only voicing our views and we try to be as neutral and as current as possible.
Thanks for all the responses. Again I am amused with some of them.
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12-08-2009, 06:42
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| | Re: Gays and Lesbians: do you have friends of them?
My posting on this subject is over. Forever.
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14-08-2009, 15:02
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| | Re: Gays and Lesbians: do you have friends of them? Quote:
Originally Posted by flow23 i have 2 gay friends. theyre loyal, true, funny guys/friends. what i do like about them is they're no (drama)queens and do not behave that poncy. thats what i dislike or feel not comfy with when theyre talking nasally and move that effeminate/wobbly(its not that two men have SX with, love each other, but why do some speak n behave that way?) and what i really hate is when they check me out and keep it up after i said "no, feck off! im not interested as im straight!" and the reply is "you havent tried, maye you like it?" its the rare occasion i tend to punch somebodys face...
i think everybody should be happy. and when that is their way to happyness and love...fine! but please leave me alone. | You are being very un-cool about this. I haven't had problems with gay men aince I hit the 80 kilo mark - suggest you do the same - try some british sausages.
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15-08-2009, 10:45
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I have never poled my mates to check their sexual preferences. You may all be gay for all I know or care. Or bi. Some may even push the boat to tri.
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16-08-2009, 10:47
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Originally Posted by HAT It is almost laughable to read some "defending" gays when no one was criticising gays or their choice. | in many societies, the gay lifestyle is still frowned upon, perhaps more so within the family, eg. in Singapore. so, what would possess a person to choose a life of familial estrangement and societal rejection?
i dun think being gay is a choice. the only choice they make is whether to step out or not.
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16-08-2009, 17:29
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Originally Posted by HAT (Disclaimer: this is not a gay-lesbian bashing thread, rather it is a reflection on some views on having gay friends amongst us)
Recently, I found out from my Facebook communications, that some of my friends from my secondary school days (meaning age 13-16) have professed openly that they are gay.
I am not going to say I am neutral about gays, because I do not quite understand them nor have any friend who openly admit they are gay.
Although I tried to sound diplomatic and even nonchalant about this discovery, I was quite "amused" or some may even say disturbed.
Is it nature or nurture? Or is it a fad to some?
To make things even more interesting, he told me, some other schoolmates from the same cohort, are also gay and they are actively protesting against the main authorities who are against gay activities and gay se.x. (which is still illegal in most Asian countries).
So do you have a gay friend (assuming you are not gay)? What do you REALLY think about it?
(To the gays here, please don't hijack this thread to promote your cause, no matter how noble it may be. You may like to start another thread for that) | HAT, I love the cock, does that change your opinion of me?
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17-08-2009, 10:48
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Originally Posted by Dingbat You are being very un-cool about this. I haven't had problems with gay men aince I hit the 80 kilo mark - suggest you do the same - try some british sausages. | the question here is: you came down to or up to 80kgs?
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17-08-2009, 11:11
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Originally Posted by flow23 the question here is: you came down to or up to 80kgs? | Here is Dingbat on his way to work so you can decide for yourself. | 
17-08-2009, 14:38
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oh, looks like he has transformed into a (cervelat?) saussage himself...yummy!
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