Cheating.

peachy · #31 (**permalink**) 11-02-2009, 09:16

so, cheating

Dä Götti Max · #32 (**permalink**) 11-02-2009, 10:20

So if cheating is usually risk-free, can we assume cheaters are liars? If so, is that acceptable, to be lied to and to lie at?

I have strong doubts, but perhaps it's preferable to not tell the truth. Telling the truth would be selfish, right?

Who needs trust?

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"Don't put your finger in the fire"
"Don't put your finger in the fire!!!"
"I said don't put your finger in the fire!!!"

"Now look what's happened..."

Live and learn, I guess...

Sandgrounder · #33 (**permalink**) 11-02-2009, 10:31

Just to look at it from a different dimension/definition - was cheating justified in this scenario:

Person A is coerced by an odd-numbered group to play a board game in which Person A is totally disinterested, made worse because it is of the late hour.
Board game goes on way too long and Person A is bored and exhausted.
Person A decides to surrepticiously throw the game by cheating when no-one is looking.
Game ends a bit quicker than anticipated and Person A is at the bottom of the leader board (and doesn't give a fig).

Would cheating be justified then? Person A was forced into a situation they didn't want to be in so took (supposedly immoral) action to get out of it at the first opportunity.

Person A's husband did not see the funny or even reasonable side of it when he found out, so cheating, at least in his book, was not justified.

swissflygirl · #34 (**permalink**) 11-02-2009, 10:35

That's not cheating as such, that's more helping the evening along a bit... I'm sure the others would have appreciated the board game not dragging on for hours....

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Originally Posted by Sandgrounder

Just to look at it from a different dimension/definition - was cheating justified in this scenario:

Person A is coerced by an odd-numbered group to play a board game in which Person A is totally disinterested, made worse because it is of the late hour.
Board game goes on way too long and Person A is bored and exhausted.
Person A decides to surrepticiously throw the game by cheating when no-one is looking.
Game ends a bit quicker than anticipated and Person A is at the bottom of the leader board (and doesn't give a fig).

Would cheating be justified then? Person A was forced into a situation they didn't want to be in so took (supposedly immoral) action to get out of it at the first opportunity.

Person A's husband did not see the funny or even reasonable side of it when he found out, so cheating, at least in his book, was not justified.

looking for yoga bones · #35 (**permalink**) 11-02-2009, 10:38

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Originally Posted by Sada

I AM Swiss !!!

EDIT: Have a look at the picture I put up, its the one I have on my company badge and what people have to look at every day and I have to answer constantly the question, where are you from, because hardly anyone thinks I am Swiss. So I could easily cheat and say I am this or that or the other. But I guess no one can run away from his/her behaviour, it will probably always reflect where you have grown up.

I can only half agree with that, since most swiss or german people I come across espeacilly germans, think I'm swiss until informed otherwise. (though I was raised by two swiss people so I am swiss, but not the way they mean).

But more I meant the phrase you used "god in heaven" that's just a very swiss way to say this.

Dä Götti Max · #36 (**permalink**) 11-02-2009, 10:40

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Originally Posted by Sandgrounder

Just to look at it from a different dimension/definition - was cheating justified in this scenario:

Person A is coerced ...

Well, sadly this example doesn't work.

"Go on honey, take that floozy from down the block, you know she wants it ..."

Dishonesty and breaking of trust is still wrong.

peachy · #37 (**permalink**) 11-02-2009, 10:41

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Originally Posted by Sandgrounder

Just to look at it from a different dimension/definition - was cheating justified in this scenario:

Person A is coerced by an odd-numbered group to play a board game in which Person A is totally disinterested, made worse because it is of the late hour.
Board game goes on way too long and Person A is bored and exhausted.
Person A decides to surrepticiously throw the game by cheating when no-one is looking.
Game ends a bit quicker than anticipated and Person A is at the bottom of the leader board (and doesn't give a fig).

Would cheating be justified then? Person A was forced into a situation they didn't want to be in so took (supposedly immoral) action to get out of it at the first opportunity.

Person A's husband did not see the funny or even reasonable side of it when he found out, so cheating, at least in his book, was not justified.

The life impact on the husband was trivial and short term, and equal to that on person A by being forced to play the game.

No big deal.

looking for yoga bones · #38 (**permalink**) 11-02-2009, 10:42

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Originally Posted by Sandgrounder

Just to look at it from a different dimension/definition - was cheating justified in this scenario:

Person A is coerced by an odd-numbered group to play a board game in which Person A is totally disinterested, made worse because it is of the late hour.
Board game goes on way too long and Person A is bored and exhausted.
Person A decides to surrepticiously throw the game by cheating when no-one is looking.
Game ends a bit quicker than anticipated and Person A is at the bottom of the leader board (and doesn't give a fig).

Would cheating be justified then? Person A was forced into a situation they didn't want to be in so took (supposedly immoral) action to get out of it at the first opportunity.

Person A's husband did not see the funny or even reasonable side of it when he found out, so cheating, at least in his book, was not justified.

If person A is so disinterested why did they start to play? Cheating in a game is just no fun, you might as well not play then.

And yes they still cheated, and could of avoided doing so by holding to what they wanted to do.

Dä Götti Max · #39 (**permalink**) 11-02-2009, 10:45

You can have as much fun as you like - with whoever you like - as long as you're single, right?

Anything else is just unfair

peachy · #40 (**permalink**) 11-02-2009, 10:49

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Originally Posted by Dä Götti Max

You can have as much fun as you like - with whoever you like - as long as you're single, right?

Depends on your point of view. Personally I think it's morally wrong to sleep with somebody you know to be in a relationship and that in knowingly doing this your intentions are more than just sex.